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In this compelling episode, I talk with theologian and author Mike Bird to explore his groundbreaking book, Jesus and the Powers. Together, they unpack a Christian perspective on government, power, and authority, offering insights into how Jesus’ teachings challenge political structures and inspire faithful engagement in the public square. Whether you’re a pastor, a thinker, or simply curious about faith and politics, this conversation promises to deepen your understanding of the intersection between the kingdom of God and earthly governance.